Legislature(2007 - 2008)CAPITOL 17

04/01/2008 01:00 PM House TRANSPORTATION


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= HB 314 G.O. BONDS FOR TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 314(TRA) Out of Committee
+= HB 322 TRANSPORTATION FUND TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
HB 314-G.O. BONDS FOR TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR JOHANSEN announced  that the first order  of business would                                                               
be HOUSE BILL NO. 314, "An  Act providing for and relating to the                                                               
issuance of  general obligation bonds  for the purpose  of paying                                                               
the cost of  state transportation projects; and  providing for an                                                               
effective date."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  NEUMAN  moved  to  adopt CSHB  314,  Version  25-                                                               
GH2041\E, Cook, 4/1/08, as the  working document.  There being no                                                               
objection, Version E was adopted.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:08:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
AVES  THOMPSON, Executive  Director, Alaska  Trucking Association                                                               
(ATA),  said  that  the  general  obligation  bond  projects  are                                                               
important to the trucking industry and that ATA supports HB 314.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR JOHANSEN  asked if the  "Parks Highway:  Weight Restriction                                                               
Elimination"  project, referred  to in  HB 314,  was part  of Mr.                                                               
Thompson's  February   14,  2008,  Alaska   Truckers  Association                                                               
overview to the committee.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:10:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JAMES  KING, Director,  Division of  Parks &  Outdoor Recreation,                                                               
Central Office, Department of  Natural Resources (DNR), explained                                                               
that the  "South Denali Access  Road" project consists of  a road                                                               
and visitor center  that will allow visitors to  share the Denali                                                               
experience.  He reported that  the access road project will start                                                               
from the  Parks Highway, close  to the South Denali  view turnout                                                               
at Mile 134.   He described that this will be a  3.5 mile road to                                                               
an  alpine Visitors  Center which  improves access  to the  state                                                               
park   lands  and   provides   year   round  interpretative   and                                                               
recreational opportunities for locals  and visitors.  He declared                                                               
that  this  will  present  an   area-wide  economic  boost.    He                                                               
explained that  the $8.9 million  bond is the start-up  money for                                                               
the road.   The rest of the project funding  will be from federal                                                               
and private  sources which have  instructed that the  state needs                                                               
to  start  the  project  before  they  will  commit  any  further                                                               
funding.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:14:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DOOGAN asked  if this road is on  state or federal                                                               
land.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. KING replied  that the road is on state  land and is entirely                                                               
within Denali State Park.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  DOOGAN asked  if the  facility will  be on  state                                                               
land, as well.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KING  responded  that  this  will be  a  Denali  State  Park                                                               
facility.   He explained that  the project is a  partnership with                                                               
the  Matanuska-Susitna  Borough  and the  National  Park  Service                                                               
(NPS) and  that the NPS  has been very supportive  with finances,                                                               
planners, and funding into the future.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DOOGAN asked if Denali  National Park and Preserve                                                               
will be accessible from this visitor facility.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. KING  replied that this  project does not touch  the National                                                               
Park.   He reiterated  that all  of this  project will  be within                                                               
Denali State Park.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:17:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  NEUMAN asked  for an  explanation of  the federal                                                               
matching funds.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. KING  replied that  a funding package  has been  put together                                                               
and that the  $8.9 million will start the process.   He explained                                                               
that once  this money is  received, the project will  qualify for                                                               
NPS  Centennial Initiative  funds that  are a  dollar for  dollar                                                               
match.   He  pointed out  that  NPS has  put a  request in  their                                                               
capital budget to help build the  facility.  He reported that all                                                               
three   members  of   Alaska's   congressional  delegation   have                                                               
indicated  that  they  will  support the  project  if  the  state                                                               
initially funds  the project.  He  said that Division of  Parks &                                                               
Outdoor Recreation  has approached  grantors and  private funders                                                               
from the tourism  industry, and several have  responded that they                                                               
will participate.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:19:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  NEUMAN asked  to  clarify that  this  is not  the                                                               
Stampede Road or the Petersville Road.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. KING agreed that this access road is neither of these.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DOOGAN asked how this  project came to be included                                                               
in the bond package.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. KING conveyed  that the governor requested  proposals for new                                                               
roads,  and  that  the  division   submitted  this  road  project                                                               
proposal.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:21:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KELLER asked  if the $8.9 million is  just for the                                                               
road or is also for the facility.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KING  said  that  the  state  requests  that  the  money  be                                                               
dedicated for  a specific part  of the  project.  He  pointed out                                                               
that there  is a need  for environmental assessment  and planning                                                               
as part of the  road project.  He noted that  any left over money                                                               
will go toward construction of the visitor center.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
STEVE  RIBUFFO, Deputy  Port Director,  Port  of Anchorage,  said                                                               
that the  Port of Anchorage  is requesting $20 million  each year                                                               
for  the next  five years  as a  state contribution  to the  port                                                               
expansion project.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:24:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR JOHANSEN closed public testimony.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR JOHANSEN  outlined the proposed  changes in the bill  to be                                                               
the removal  of the $15  million for "Southeast  Alaska: Pavement                                                               
Rehabilitation,"  and the  addition of  $45 million  for "Gravina                                                               
Access."   He allowed that  this will  reflect a net  increase of                                                               
$30 million for the general obligation bonds requested.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:25:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   FAIRCLOUGH  said   that   she  appreciates   the                                                               
discussion of  the Gravina Access,  but she questions how  a bond                                                               
package will pass  when more than 30 percent of  the package goes                                                               
to Southeast Alaska.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  JOHANSEN  replied  that Gravina  Access  is  an  important                                                               
project, and  he expressed his  belief that the decisions  of the                                                               
state should  not be made  based on  the number of  people living                                                               
within an area.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FAIRCLOUGH   agreed  that   large  infrastructure                                                               
projects should  go through a  process to determine  the priority                                                               
level.  She expressed concern that  a project which is 30 percent                                                               
of the bond package will  jeopardize the other community projects                                                               
in the bond package.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:27:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  JOHANSEN  offered  his  belief  that  this  bill  will  be                                                               
balanced with  other state interests  by the time it  reaches the                                                               
House Floor.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DOOGAN expressed his  concern with the legislature                                                               
passing a  bond package  when there is  so much  money available.                                                               
He requested more discussion of the advisability for bonding.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   NEUMAN  agreed   with  Representative   Doogan's                                                               
concern for a  bond package.  He mentioned  that his constituents                                                               
feel that  all the  legislators are  responsible for  the budget.                                                               
He said that it  is good that this bill will go to  a vote of the                                                               
public.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:31:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FAIRCLOUGH  said that  she wants  her constituency                                                               
to know  that she will  put a  "no recommendation" on  this bill.                                                               
She noted  that there are  billions of dollars  of transportation                                                               
projects and  that she  supports the  governor's resolve  to move                                                               
forward.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FAIRCLOUGH  established that the  "Gravina Access"                                                               
project may raise federal concerns  as Alaska has supported a "no                                                               
build"   alternative.     She  posed   that  this   may  initiate                                                               
liabilities or ramifications from the federal government.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:34:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOHNSON  allowed that  he also has  concerns about                                                               
the legislation.   He expressed  his belief  that this bill  is a                                                               
budget increase, even  though it is not contained  in the capital                                                               
budget.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR    JOHANSEN   expressed    his    frustration   with    the                                                               
administration's approach  to the budget.   He explained  that he                                                               
tries to separate operating and  capital budgets.  He offered his                                                               
belief that the capital budget  should be investments in projects                                                               
that  provide opportunities.    He discussed  the  use of  bonds,                                                               
stating  that Alaska's  bond rating  is improved,  and that  this                                                               
bill is a wise use of money.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  NEUMAN  moved to  report  CSHB  314, Version  25-                                                               
GH2041\E,  Cook,   4/1/08,  out  of  committee   with  individual                                                               
recommendations and  the accompanying fiscal notes.   There being                                                               
no objection, CSHB 314(TRA) was moved from committee.                                                                           

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